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Thread subject: Some thoughts for discussion-Plus a comment for DPOF
Name Date Message
Celeste 05/30/04 03:35 pm This morning,at 9:56am I noted in my observation that Chick 1 started to be aggressive towards #4 and Betty who was standing, suddenly turned in the direction of the pecking and it stopped. Chick 4 proceeded to "hide" itself close to Mom while the other 3 chicks elected to sun themselves at the side of the nest. As I was writing what I did, I thought to myself, did I "see" this because I am human? Or, is it the "mother instinct" in women?, etc. On the other hand, though many nests have been observed by professionals in the past, this is indeed the first streaming video of an osprey nest I believe, and perhaps, we as observers are seeing behavior up close and personal that even the professionals who climbed up the nests, or sat in a chair all day with binoculars have not seen. Will this mean chick 4 can survive? My feeling is that it probably won't in this "natural do not disturb nest". How can a "runt" survive migration? However, as I posted I also thought to myself if a "runt" was born in a nest where hatching is practiced, perhaps a "runt" would be used for educational purposes, as other "rescue" raptors are used. In fact here on Long Island I recently visited a place called Sweetbriar Nature Center, where I saw red tail hawks, eagles, and other birds of prey that were rescued.

If DPOF can give us any insight it would be very much appreciated. As a matter of fact, DPOF, we 2nd time viewers do miss the commentaries that you had last year to address any of our comments or questions.
Kathy 05/30/04 03:50 pm I also miss the commentaries from last year.
What better way to start them again by answering
Celeste's message.
Dave S 05/30/04 04:51 pm A partial answer to your question: The nest is located on federal property and we, DPOF, by law cannot disturb the nest as long as the birds are in or around it without special permits. We don't have the permits.

There have been other postings in which the observer sees an adult seemingly interrupt the "rude" behavior, but there are many more times when they don't. Hard to tell what that means, but I think the adults, for the most part, will only protect the chicks from intruders and not each other. What we see in the nest is the uncut, unedited version, and we are all learning from this experience.
Celeste 05/30/04 05:11 pm Thank you Dave. I know that the nest is located on federal property and I understand all that that entails. And of course, we must all realize the norm in places like Canada and remote areas around the world, that osprey and all the other wild residents live as mother nature intended. It is because we are fortunate enough to have this website, that are awareness is heightened. However it is intriguing that my instincts were somewhat correct....that in some small way our observations are enlightening and maybe somewhat important! Now isn't that something!!!!!
Dave S 05/30/04 06:51 pm Without the input of all of us who enjoy the site, the picture would be incomplete. We have to thank all those who post observations at times when we would not be watching, as well as those who post at the same time as others. Two sets of eyes see more than one....

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Tom Throwe
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