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Thread subject: The fox
Name Date Message
Pam 05/03/11 03:49 pm I managed some photos of our mangy fox this evening. It has such a pretty face. I do hope it survives.
Fox pics
Trishrg 05/03/11 05:40 pm Oh what a beautiful creature, but how sad for it at the same time. I too hope it heals and survives!
Great shots Pam.
martyc35 05/03/11 05:45 pm Ohhh, he/she is handsome, despite the difficulties. Hope it gets well. Your other recent pics are great, too, Pam. Lovely wildflowers.
marty
Shelley 05/03/11 07:16 pm Yikes! Poor thing! I wonder, do you have a wildlife organization that might be able to help somehow? I don't really know how, but maybe you could forward these photos to them and they might have a solution.

Is she always alone? How long has she been appearing (I know you have mentioned it before). Has she always been mangy or is this recent? How does mange happen, anyhow? I have no idea really
Celeste 05/03/11 08:15 pm What a sweet face. I'm hoping it can survive also.
Was t;rying to learn more about mange and found this among other sites..

How can I treat a fox with mange?
Unlike dogs, mange in foxes is a serious disease and is often fatal. Most infected cubs die, as can adults; death usually occurs within four months of being infected. However, many adult foxes survive infection without treatment: sometimes the disease recedes, only to flare up again, or the fox never shows any further signs of infection. If you feed a fox regularly, you can try to improve its prognosis by adding either ivermectin, which you can obtain from a local veterinarian, or a homeopathic remedy to its food. However, with ivermectin you must ensure that the treated food is not eaten by someone's pet, since under UK law pet animals are property under the Criminal Damage Act 1971 and you are responsible for any adverse reactions that occur: collies and collie-crosses seem particularly susceptible to ivermectin, and small birds eating treated food are at particular risk of receiving a dangerously high dose.

I found this info from
HERE
Shelley 05/03/11 09:41 pm Great link, Celeste. I hope Pam can contact someone there who might be able to assist. The fox in her pics doesn't look like a young cub and its face and eyes look alert and otherwise healthy, though I obviously have no real way of knowing. Maybe it will be ok.
Pam 05/04/11 07:20 am What a lot of questions ! Thanks for that information about ivermectin Celeste. We will not interfere in any way however. We have lots of birds visit the garden and also a few domestic cats. This particular fox has been visiting for quite some time now. Whether we saw the same animal before the mange I couldn't say. As you can see, it seems very clear eyed and is certainly very active. It really doesn't appear to be hindered in any way by its loss of fur. Shelley, I have never seen another fox with this one, but we don't see them every time they visit, particularly in the hours of darkness when we can hear them but not see them. I'll keep you posted of any developments.
cathy 05/04/11 11:04 am Thanks for showing me foxes still live in England despite the tradition of hunting them. It does have a lovely intelligent expression.
Anne 05/05/11 04:33 am Since fox hunting was banned in the UK, the fox population has exploded. Many have been forced to join the urban population which was already growing, and many do succumb to mange due to poor diet.

DaisyG 05/05/11 02:18 pm Lovely pics Pam. Your fox looks as though it is moulting to me. They do moult in Spring/Early Summer.

I used to have a German Shepherd Dog who used to look terrible when moulting.
Anne-UK1 05/05/11 06:14 pm It looks very bright eyed, so perhaps you are right Daisy - I hope so.

Pam, I found this website which may be of interest. If the photos are anything to go by, even really bad mange can be treated with no risk to other wildlife. Maybe you could contact them via email and ask them if they think your fox does have mange? - Link
Shelley 05/05/11 07:37 pm I showed this to a friend and she also asked me about moulting. I had no idea if foxes moulted. I thought only birds did that!

Learn something new every day!
DaisyG 05/06/11 04:26 am This fox looks healthy to me. I am pretty certain I am right and he is just moulting.

If he had mange there would be sores evident and he would look 'scabby' from scratching. Mange mites cause great irritation.

This bit of info might help See where it says 'Mangy foxes and other queries'

All furry animals and birds moult Shelley. Moulting is often called 'shedding' in animals but means the same thing. We moult too :)
Shelley 05/06/11 06:15 am I am very familiar with the term *shedding* (as a cat owner and former dog owner!!). I had only heard the word *moulting* in reference to birds so this is interesting to me. Of course, now that I think of it, it makes perfect sense.

And the fox in Pam's photos certainly does look scruffy but hopefully, it is indeed only moulting. Thanks, Daisy
Pam 05/06/11 06:47 am Thank you for all the links and information. I have had another look at the photos and I believe now it may only be moulting as it appears to have another layer of fur growing in the main bald patch on its side. It certainly seems lively enough. I have been having my computer connection updated so having to iron out a few wrinkles as a result. However, crossed fingers, it seems a vast improvement on transmission with no breaks (so far) in my connection and no buffering when I watch the Loon cam, which amazing because before I had to reconnect every few seconds.
martyc35 05/06/11 12:30 pm I think the extent to which the fox moults is surprising to some of us, because we don't usually think of "shedding" as being quite so drastic. I used to have a part malamute dog who began moulting his winter undercoat of fuzz early every spring. If we didn't comb, vacuum, and tease the fuzz out of him, it would pile up on the floor a foot deep, which we discovered every time we had to leave him for a few hours. A good thing the fox is losing that coat outdoors!
marty

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