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Thread subject: Sad News From Loch Garten
Name Date Message
Tiger 02/25/15 03:58 am There was sad news from Loch Garten yesterday. The young osprey Millicent has died. See Bad News I am afraid
Anne-UK 02/26/15 03:03 pm Sad news indeed. LG haven't had much luck at all with their tagged birds.
DaisyG 02/26/15 04:46 pm Yes, very sad. Let us hope that Breagha makes it back. I have a good feeling he will.
Tiger 02/26/15 08:19 pm Have Loch Garten had any luck with any of their birds?

EJ has seen 23 chicks fledge.

12 have had satellite tags and rings

8 have had rings

3 have neither had tags or rings.

Of those 23 birds the only one that we know is alive is Breagha.
Anne-UK 02/27/15 03:29 am The statistics don't look good. But then statistics tell us that only 5 or 6 would be expected to make it to full adulthood. Rutland seems to have a very good return rate but perhaps percentage-wise it's not as high as it might appear.
Tiger 02/27/15 05:19 am Chicks fathered by 3 (97) have a good return rate. However if you look at the return rate of chicks fathered by other males it is hard to find any.

So without 3 (97) the whole Rutland translocation might have failed.

11 (98) at Glaslyn has done rather well too. So there does seem to be a genetic component to the return rate.

In fact it is now hard to find an osprey in the south of England that does not have 3 (97) genes.
Anne-UK 02/27/15 09:46 am Is there any indication that ospreys with 3(97)s genes have passed on that survival/return gene to their own offspring?
Tiger 02/27/15 04:04 pm Well Anne one could always do the research. See Rutland data
Anne-UK 02/28/15 03:50 am Ha ha. I was hoping you already had ;)
Tiger 02/28/15 05:20 am One cannot do everything Anne.
Anne-UK 02/28/15 09:35 am No indeed. I hoped you were the exception to the rule :)

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